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Talzor
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:28 pm Post subject: 481 |
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I see you bold and unorthodox tactic and raise you one, eh kk .
I must commend you however, it was a brilliant move.
The only last unknown is weather his immunity was one shot. Unfortunately I can't find way to exploit this.
If we S is I(mmune), M can only win by getting the T to lynch S. But if we lynch S M wins. Going to night could confirm the immunity but would leave us with MST the next day (Clearly S wouldn't kill M and face STT). And in MST the town cannot win, but must decide if M or S should win.
If S isn't I and we go to night as MSTT, M would kill S, but S would know this and effectively has to decide if he would like M or T to win.
In summary:
If S is I, T decide between S or M win
If S isn't I, S decide between M or T win
Ironically kk claiming M has increased his chance to win to 50% (statistically, given 50/50 chance of I).
As I don't think it's fair to ask any side to decide between letting other sides win. I shall also Vote: Draw |
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kennykiller
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:12 am Post subject: 482 |
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I didn't realise that my chances to win were that high after a claim. But if I hadn't claimed DR would have killed me in any case the next night (or that's what I think). So in my opinion my chances got from 0% to 50% by claiming mafia. Name me one other game where that happened.
But DRs night immunity (even if it was one shot or a 50% thing) made the game for the rest of you. Without it there would only be TCM, Talzor and me around and with two cops and one doc dead I think I could have convinced TCM to vote Talzor and thereby win. _________________ I used to have a sig but I quit smoking |
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Dead Rikimaru
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:44 am Post subject: 483 |
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Well,
We have three different groups among just four people.
If town lynches SK gives win to Mafia.
If town lynches Mafia gives win to SK.
If we have no lynch either town or SK wins.
If we lynch a townie town probably wins, but we would need cooperation from Mafia and SK for that.
In that case I think the best for the town is really
Vote: draw
The only problem, KK, is that I'm not SK.
I'm Aimée Carter who wrote Phoenix Ashes.
I am a townie immune to Night Kills, if I get targeted I rise again from my own ashes.
(Yes, this role is NOT too poweful. You scum probably didn't notice how troublesome it was for the town to survive in an invironment without ANY information fom dead characters during half of the game)
The SK is probably Talzor, although I actually have seen SK masons before.
To be completelly sure I should take a look at the books from Talzor and TCM's authors and see if I could find a killer in those book with a modus operandi similar to the on of "our" SK.
But looks like it's not worth the trouble, since people agree to a draw.
Let's wait for the mod now. _________________ Learn how to flip out like a ninja!
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Talzor
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:01 am Post subject: 484 |
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We should probably hear from TCM before continuing.
And can I just say that I doubt DR's claim very much. It seems highly unlikely that we have timetraveling SK mason. But I respect his wish to "keep up appearances" and since he's voting for a draw, it doesn't bother me.
Also, inspired by my role, I have just finished reading "Golem" and while it does contain quite a lot of US rangers firing randomly in panic, the "real" killer is *shock* a golem, who tend to maim people, not shot them. |
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Dead Rikimaru
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject: 485 |
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Oh, yeah.
I love and hate my role at the same time.
The ability is very cool, but it's a minor writter compared to most of the others.
I'd love to have been Arthur Conan Doyle or Agatha Christie, but the players who were didn't use the roles well.  _________________ Learn how to flip out like a ninja!
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The Cheshire Man
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: 486 |
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I can't remember who my author was, just that it was some guy going back in time to examine the claims of Jesus.
Anyway, I Vote: Draw, as I dispise both the SK and the Mafia equally in this game.  _________________ smile |
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kennykiller
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:16 am Post subject: 487 |
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Anyway, I Vote: Draw, as I dispise both the SK and the Mafia equally in this game.  |
Who doesn't despise them if he's not part of them?
Unofficial vote count:
Draw 4 (DR, KK, Talzor, TCM)
Draw is lynched. I'm waiting for his death scene. I hope this scummy Draw burns in writer hell.
BTW I didn't mention the name of my author yet. I'm the world famous Sam Stern (I hope you can hear the sarcasm in my voice). I didn't know him befor this game and had to look him up a few minutes ago to remember his name. _________________ I used to have a sig but I quit smoking |
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Mgm
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: 488 |
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| I'm sorry, but I can't lynch "draw" because he's not playing. However, you can vote no lynch and have me declare the game a draw if no one dies for 2 consecutive nights. |
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Dead Rikimaru
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:12 am Post subject: 489 |
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| Fritzler wrote: |
| The Cheshire Man wrote: |
I'm going to...
Unvote: KK
Vote: Pooky
...and hope that Fritzler and the SK nightkill each other. |
as if, I'm impervious to bullets
btw
talzor IS SCUM
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He was a cop.
Anyway, I have another way of proving I'm innocent.
Have you ever seen a SK immune to Night Kills AND lynch?
The intent of my role (as far as I can understand) is only lose on endgame (and maybe waste some scum kills, since town played most of the game in the dark). Every time I die am born again from the ashes.
There is only one way of proving what I'm saying: lynch me.
vote: Dead Rikimaru _________________ Learn how to flip out like a ninja!
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Talzor
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:20 am Post subject: 490 |
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| I have an even better way of proving DR wrong. Lynch me. Vote Talzor. That way you go to night with MST, knowing who's who. Judging from DR last play I'm guessing that his immunity was one-shot, so you can all flip a coin or something to decide who to shot. |
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kennykiller
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: 491 |
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This is all so funny. There's one claimed mafia and nobody bothers to vote him (or me in this case). Instead we've two claimed townies who vote themselves. Is this some kind of suicide mafia?
And what happened to the draw decision everyone made? Do you two really want to loose? Why don't we go ahead and vote: no lynch? There won't be a kill this night (see my post #479) and if we vote no lynch tommorrow, there won't be a kill the next night and MGM will draw this game. _________________ I used to have a sig but I quit smoking |
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Dead Rikimaru
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: 492 |
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| Talzor wrote: |
| I have an even better way of proving DR wrong. Lynch me. Vote Talzor. That way you go to night with MST, knowing who's who. Judging from DR last play I'm guessing that his immunity was one-shot, so you can all flip a coin or something to decide who to shot. |
lol.
You risked letting Leonidas live just to prove TCM's power and you don't want to prove mine?
Why do you think I would I want to get killed? Specially if I had a one shot protection only?
Unless you believe I am a townie sacrificing myself. But if I am a townie who is the SK. You?
*points to Agatha Fritzler Christie last post*
I am a Phoenix and will not die.
After I prove my point we can discuss who we are going to lynch or if we have a no-lynch.
BTW, TCM I would like you to check the name of your writer, please. _________________ Learn how to flip out like a ninja!
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Talzor
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:33 pm Post subject: 493 |
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| kennykiller wrote: |
| This is all so funny. There's one claimed mafia and nobody bothers to vote him (or me in this case). Instead we've two claimed townies who vote themselves. Is this some kind of suicide mafia? |
Believe me, the humor is not lost on me. All in all this game has been extremely entertaining.
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| And what happened to the draw decision everyone made? Do you two really want to loose? Why don't we go ahead and vote: no lynch? There won't be a kill this night (see my post #479) and if we vote no lynch tomorrow, there won't be a kill the next night and MGM will draw this game. |
Sorry, I just assumed that you wouldn’t trust the SK to not kill you. I forgot that killing you would leave us to lynch him tomorrow. Guess I'll go along with a Vote: No lynch.
And may I just add that, should I be found dead tomorrow, I encourage the remaining town (I.e. TCM) NOT to vote for anyone that day, as this could encourage either the Mafia or the SK to kill a townie and try to pin it on the other in the hopes of a having the townie lynch him in revenge. |
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kennykiller
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: 494 |
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| I am a Phoenix and will not die. |
That sounds like you'll rise from the dead whenever you are killed even if you're lynched. This would mean thhat you'll survive this game in any case. That sounds very unlikely.
And also the description of last nights events don't confirm your version. If you really were the Phoenix then I would have stuffed you to death and later you would have risen from the dead. But in the scene described MGM uses the word vomit. That just sounds like a normal immunity to being nightkilled by stuffing.
I just continue to believe you're the SK.
But another crazy idea came to my mind this morning while I was in the shower (that's a very good place to have weird ideas). What if DR really isn't the SK? TCM and Talzor aren't either. Me, I'm mafia. So maybe we have a ghost writer (hey it's literary mafia and how many books are written by ghost writers?) who kills in the night. If we have one it could be the dead raekuul AKA Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. We had no second dead in N1 and Doyle was lynched on the following day. In real life Doyle believed in those spiritual things that were popular in the early 20th century (like contacting ghosts in seances).
I know that this sounds very unlikely but it's still possible. Allthough I think that this role would be very über.
And last but not least I have a question for Talzor: you said you could "read" the mafia messages. Are you getting the complete messages (excluding names of mafia members) or just something like "mafia attacks player X"? _________________ I used to have a sig but I quit smoking |
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Choctorjgm
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: 495 |
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| kennykiller wrote: |
| And also the description of last nights events don't confirm your version. If you really were the Phoenix then I would have stuffed you to death and later you would have risen from the dead. But in the scene described MGM uses the word vomit. That just sounds like a normal immunity to being nightkilled by stuffing. |
Yes, I did. Also note the fact I mentioned a flash of light. |
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Talzor
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:02 am Post subject: 496 |
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Just for the record: I, too, still believe DR is the SK. The ghost theory is fun, but not really likely, and it's just borderline possible. How are we supposed to deal with a ghost killer? And would a ghost use a gun? I think not.
As for my ability. First of all, it isn't 100% successful, and I only succeeded on night 2. The message I got was "verbatim", but I'm not entirely sure if it was the entire message or just a part of it. The sender of the message was complaining to the receiver that a third person hadn't told the sender that he (i.e. the sender) was sent to kill igota. Oh, and he used one of the green smilie faces. |
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kennykiller
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: 497 |
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Excuse me, I didn't see the flash of light thing. Even not as I now reread the post. I think I need new glasses.
And now I totally believe Talzor that he's able to read mafia messages. I think the message must have looked exactly like this:
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So he told you that I'm killing igota. That's OK with me. But he should have told me. How else should I know who to kill? |
And it was the complete message I sent to our mod. _________________ I used to have a sig but I quit smoking |
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Dead Rikimaru
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: 498 |
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| I am a Phoenix and will not die. |
That sounds like you'll rise from the dead whenever you are killed even if you're lynched. This would mean thhat you'll survive this game in any case. That sounds very unlikely.
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That sounds unlikely TO A SK!!! Not for a townie, because if at any time Mafia and town have the same number of players Mafia wins.
Remember how town were blinded by not knowing who the killed players were until Day 3? It's to balance town's disadvantage.
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And also the description of last nights events don't confirm your version. If you really were the Phoenix then I would have stuffed you to death and later you would have risen from the dead. But in the scene described MGM uses the word vomit. That just sounds like a normal immunity to being nightkilled by stuffing.
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Read the scene again:
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| Day 4 dawns and everyone is awoken by a flash of light from Dead Rikimaru's room. In contrast to his name, he's still quite alive, but you can't help but notice the vomit and the half eaten tray of breakfast cereal. Something definitely happened here |
The flash of light was me getting born again.
The half-eaten breakfast was what killed me, and the vomit was flavor to show how I died.
I was actualy going to use this as proof that you were lying when you said you protected me. (if you hadn't admitted you were Mafia a little later).
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| Just for the record: I, too, still believe DR is the SK. |
You are blatantly lying. Reasons:
1- Your conclusions are the opposite of what a townie would conclude.
example:" He wants to be lynched, so he is a SK and had only one-shot protection."
It's a pretty ridiculous conclusion. A SK plays alone. If I were a SK without protection why would I want to get lynched since I would be losing the game.
2- You ignore the questions I make you (post 492). It is proof that you don't want to clarify anything. You want to take advantage of KK's confusion.
3- You propose a strategy for next Day while it's obvious that this is the last Day of the game. A mafioso would never let himself get killed without trying to nail the SK. You just want KK to go to Night thinking that I am the SK.
That's what Talzor want:
Talzor wants us to go to Night while KK thinks I'm the SK.
This way KK will waste his nightkill in me and he will kill KK.
Tomorrow he just need to WIFOM his way into getting me killed.
TO KK
You have nothing to lose by voting me.
If i'm really the SK you win the game. (if I were a SK with nightkill AND lynch immunity this whole game would be pointless).
If I'm a townie than I'm not lying, and you will understand that as soon as I get back in another flash of light.
TO TCM
You must vote me to prove I'm a townie.
If I were a SK I would never want to be lynched. I would never want to give Leonidas or Pooky the win.
You must believe and vote me so we can see the real SK.
ANYONE HERE THAT IS NOT NAMED TALZOR MUST
vote: Dead Rikimaru
SO I CAN PROVE MY POWER AND EXPOSE THE SK THAT TALZOR IS. _________________ Learn how to flip out like a ninja!
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Talzor
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: 499 |
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So he told you that I'm killing igota. That's OK with me. But he should have told me. How else should I know who to kill?  |
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That is indeed the message I got. I just didn't want to post it in case it broke Rule [04].
To DR: I'm sorry I didn't respond to your questions, nothing personally. I'm on vacation and they just didn't seem so important. I thought (apparently wrongly) that we were just moving on to the next night anyway.
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| You risked letting Leonidas live just to prove TCM's power and you don't want to prove mine? |
I in no way "risked" letting Leo live. At the time I didn't suspect Leo of being any scummier than a lot of other people. What we were trying to do was:
1. Put Leo 1 away from lynch.
2. Lynch somebody else.
3. If "somebody else" turned up town, use TCM's time travel to lynch Leo instead of somebody else.
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| Why do you think I would I want to get killed? Specially if I had a one shot protection only? |
I don't think you really want to get lynched. I think you are the SK pulling a dangerous stunt, in an attempt to win. And let's face it, that kind of stunt are necessary and therefore justified at this stage in this highly unusual game.
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Unless you believe I am a townie sacrificing myself. But if I am a townie who is the SK. You?
*points to Agatha Fritzler Christie last post* |
As for Fritzler... Well, who knows what goes on in the misty fogs of his cerebrum? Face it. Pooky started the whole TALZOR == SCUM, and he thought it was fun, so he joined.
Ok, time for a summery of the current information.
Claim 1: KK is the last mafia.
Claim 2: TCM is the last mason.
Claim 3: DR is immune to night kills.
Claim 4: Talzor can intercept mafia messages.
Fact 1: TCM has traveled back in time to lynch Leo, mafia godfather.
Fact 2: DR has shown immunity to one night kill
Now, I pretty sure that we can all agree that kk is very likely the last mafia and I don't think anybody also suspects him of being the SK . Given that we believe claim 1, it seems fair to assume that claim 4 is also true. As Dr isn't claiming to be a mason, Claim 2 also seems fair.
This leaves us with the possibility of:
1. A time traveling SK mason. (TCM)
2. A SK with night one-shot or total night immunity. (DR)
3. A SK who has a chance to intercept mafia messages. (TALZOR)
Naturally I know I'm not the SK, but even so possibility 2 is by far the most likely. So here's what I'm going to do. I'll continue to support a No Lynch and if kk is dead in the morning. I'll support a DR lynch. If TCM, against all odds, should turn out to be the SK. Then congratulation to him, he fooled me. Until then. Confirm: No Lynch. |
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Talzor
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:11 pm Post subject: 500 |
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Afterthought: Do anybody know who posted the "false" messages? kk?
Secondly, did you send pooky to do the first killing? The message on day 2 did point to him. |
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Dead Rikimaru
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject: 501 |
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I don't think you really want to get lynched. I think you are the SK pulling a dangerous stunt, in an attempt to win. And let's face it, that kind of stunt are necessary and therefore justified at this stage in this highly unusual game.
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It's funny how you say that asking people to vote myself is a necessary stunt for the SK at this point of the game.because you did the exact same thing.
Where is your vote now? In no lynch.
Where is my vote now? still in myself.
This "stunt" is exactly it you did in the start of the day, just to look "pro-town".
I need two votes to be "lynched". If you think I don't want people to vote me prove it to me: vote dead rikimaru and let KK decide.
When I get enugh votes and prove my power who is going to look bad, Talzor? _________________ Learn how to flip out like a ninja!
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The Cheshire Man
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: 502 |
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Vote: Dead Rikamaru
He makes a really good point, Talzor. If he's lying, he loses. If he's telling the truth, it keeps the SK from offing KK and then finishing us off the next night.
I am curious about one thing, though. How do we know that it isn't MMST? _________________ smile |
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Talzor
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: 503 |
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Vote: Dead Rikamaru
He makes a really good point, Talzor. If he's lying, he loses. If he's telling the truth, it keeps the SK from offing KK and then finishing us off the next night. |
No! If he is telling the truth (and I still doubt it, despite his attempt to get lynched. Damn copycat ) then you are the SK and not immune to night kills, so we go to night MST, where the M and S both will shoot, as shooting somebody it is clearly a superior to not shooting. As the S you know kk is the last M, so you will clearly shot him. The only question is whether kk will choose to shoot me or you.
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| I am curious about one thing, though. How do we know that it isn't MMST? |
Technically we can't, but if that is the case , then I'm the last town and this is a lost cause, so I don't waste time on that scenario. But I doubt it. 1 it's to many mafia and 2. I didn't intercept a message last night. (That could easily be a normal failure, but it also strengthens the possibility that there are only 1 left)
Case overview if DR are lynched:
Case 1: DR is the SK, KK wins.
Case 2: DR isn't the SK. KK loses, but must decide if you or I should win (without actually knowing who's who)
In conclusion I'm strongly in favor of a no lynch as this is the only tactic which will prevent both the SK and KK from shooting at each other. Indecently if you actually were the SK, you would probably have supported this tactic, as I have publicly stated that I firmly believe DR to be the SK, and as such you could just have killed kk and lynched DR with me the next day.
Even if you aren't the SK, no lynch is still a good tactic. Worst case: kk turns up dead. DR and I vote each other, so even if you are in doubt of who's who you got a 50% chance of winning. |
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kennykiller
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:04 am Post subject: 504 |
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| Dead Rikimaru wrote: |
| kennykiller wrote: |
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| I am a Phoenix and will not die. |
That sounds like you'll rise from the dead whenever you are killed even if you're lynched. This would mean thhat you'll survive this game in any case. That sounds very unlikely.
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That sounds unlikely TO A SK!!! Not for a townie, because if at any time Mafia and town have the same number of players Mafia wins.
Remember how town were blinded by not knowing who the killed players were until Day 3? It's to balance town's disadvantage. |
I admit that town had some disadvantages. But a person that is would rise from the dead any time he's killed (by lynch or by nightkill) is a little bit too much to balance the game. How could any group get rid of this person?
And to answer Talzors question: I was the only mafia player who was sent out on a kill. The following deaths were due to my bloodthirst:
11. bluesoul - Anthony Horowitz - role replacer - stuffed (night 1)
9. CzarJ - Orson Scott Card - vig - poisoned (day 1)
5. igota75 - Margaret Mahy - time travelling mason - stuffed (night 2)
Yes, I was responsible for Czarj's death on day one. I had the one time abbility to booby trap one post number and he had the poisoned reply # 30.
To the question why we couldn't have a MMST situation:
If there really were two of us left we would know that TCM is a mason and therefor town. That would leave a clear SK to us and we would try to convince TCM to vote him.
Anyway, given the facts I know for sure (TCM is a time travelling mason, DR is immune to night kills and Talzor is able to decipher messages and to intercept mafia messages to the mod) I have the following options for a SK:
1. time travelling mason SK
2. SK immune to night kills
3. SK who could 'hear' what mafia tells the mod and could decipher codes (whoever wrote them. Maybe the ghost writer theory isn't that bad.).
Number 1 and 3 seem to be a little bit to über. So only number two is a possible way out.
And now I really want to test this theory. If it's true I win. unvote, vote:DR _________________ I used to have a sig but I quit smoking |
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Talzor
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:35 am Post subject: 505 |
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| And now I really want to test this theory. If it's true I win. |
That was what I was afraid of Well, I can hardly say I blame you. |
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kennykiller
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:44 am Post subject: 506 |
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| Talzor wrote: |
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| And now I really want to test this theory. If it's true I win. |
That was what I was afraid of Well, I can hardly say I blame you. |
And you can't say I didn't try. I even didn't vote him after he voted himself but now even TCM does vote him. So if you want to push me to a win... (only if my theory is true that is. DR voting himself does make me a little suspicious) _________________ I used to have a sig but I quit smoking |
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Mgm
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:49 am Post subject: 507 |
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Vote count
Dead Rikimaru (3): Dead Rikimaru, The Cheshire Man, kennykiller
Lynch scene forthcoming.
Please stop talking in case you planned to continue. |
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Isaac Asimod
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: 508 |
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The ever so small mob pushes Dead Rikimaru into an empty room.
"See, I told you I wouldn't -"
But he's interrupted by the sound of loads of paper being dumped into the room from some random hatch in the ceiling. Surprised, he takes a page and reads its contents.
"Oh no! I can't stand bad writing!"
He's promptly covered by a truckload of other rejected manuscripts.
Dead Rikimaru suffocates in the slushpile
"Hey guys, what did I miss?" A long silence follows.
Somehow Agatha Fritzler has been brought back to life.
We go into night 5 with still 4 people alive. Please send choices by Wednesday August 9. I will let day dawn the first chance I get. |
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Mgm
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: 509 |
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| I forgot to mention that Dead Rikimaru was Aimee Carter author of Phoenix Ashes who could come back to life once in the game. |
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Isaac Asimod
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: 510 |
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Sam Stern took his funnel and a whole host of foods to stuff TCM with in his sleep. After all, no one was gonna touch breakfast anymore. After a minute or 10, the convention was short a time travelling mason.
As he congratulated himself on a job well done, he was struck by a sticky fate. He took a blow to the back of the head and when day broke, he was swinging from a noose in the main convention hall. Fritzler and Talzor surveyed the carnage.
"Say, Talzor, did you ever read my book 'And Then There Were None'?"
"No, can't say I have."
"To bad, I think it is one of my best. Especially the bit where the killer fakes his own death to make sure the survivors mistrust each other and do the killing for him..."
"You don't mean..."
"Yes I do. Sorry."
Fritzler whips out a revolver and shoots Talzor between the eyes, the exact same place where his fake wound used to be...
Serial Killer Agatha Christie wins the game!
kennykiller, the clues about Fritzler where there, why did you choose to kill TCM instead of Fritzler? Didn't the cop claim make him more of a target?
Also, most of you made a vital mistake. Revealing his role actually sealed kenny's fate. The SK could easily kill him, because no one knew the serial killer's identity. Doing so would prove no more dangerous to him than any other kill.
GAME OVER! |
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Talzor
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:31 am Post subject: 511 |
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Damn, as soon as Fritzler came back I knew I made a mistake with DR. Sorry DR, I hope you understand why I thought you were the SK. I can certainly see why you would suspect me.
Except for the first days, this has been a great game and highly entertaining.
I also think that this game, together with Monopoly, has shown that not revealing anything about dead player are extremely inhibiting for the town.
By the way, who killed Ctorj? And who made all those messages? |
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Mgm
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:45 am Post subject: 512 |
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Fritzler was the one who killed Ctorj in true "And Then There Where None" style. Kennykiller did the stuffing night 2. In fact, there was no third killer Mr. Brown tried to recruit the mafia GF.
The message regarding Talzor's supposed scumminess was from the mafia. Most of the others belonged to me. I needed enough messages in the game to give Talzor a chance to figure out the code early. |
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kennykiller
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: 513 |
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I must confess that I didn't really think about who I should kill tonight, because I knew that with DR not being the SK and Fritzler returning the game was over for me. I was sure that the SK was going to kill his only threat: the last remaining mafia member - me. In my opinion it didn't really matter to me if the town or the SK wins so I just randomly chose one of them.
And I have to admit, that this game was very amusing. Especially me claiming mafia and no one being able to lynch me was quite funny. And I have to give Pooky my excuses. I really thought that after your lynch and after killing DR (who I thought was the SK), while the SK killed the suspicious Fritzler, I could convince TCM to lynch Talzor. (I hope everyone understands this sentence. I think I should start to write in a clear manner).
Thank you MGM for hosting this great game and congrats to Fritzler. _________________ I used to have a sig but I quit smoking |
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Leonidas
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: 514 |
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Wow - a truly outstanding game ! What an awesome finale !!!  |
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Mgm
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject: 515 |
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Thanks! I'm glad you all played.
Keep your eyes open for my next game coming soon... |
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Dead Rikimaru
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject: 516 |
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Damn, as soon as Fritzler came back I knew I made a mistake with DR. Sorry DR, I hope you understand why I thought you were the SK. I can certainly see why you would suspect me.
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Same here. Since I believed Fritzler was a cop I really thought he had a guilty on you.
Here is an explanation of my strategy:
We were 4 alive and convinced there were a SK and a mafioso. I knew I were the prime suspect of being the SK, so if we went to Night with people thinking that way the mafioso would probably kill me and the real SK would be free to kill him and win.
The only way to avoid it would be proving I was town. There were no other way of doing so other than getting lynched. That's why I lied about my power, I wanted to be lynched so the mafioso would have a 50% chance of hitting the SK and town would win. Of course I was working with the information I had.
My considerations about this game:
- It was very, very hard for town to win this game. Without roles revealed we had nothing to work with, discussion lagged and Day 2 lynch was as random as any Day 1.
- The endgame on the other hand was very fun to play. I enjoyed a lot trying to convince everyone to lynch me. And it's not in many games that you see a claimed mafioso and two townies asking people to lynch them.
- I liked my play overall. How I didn't believe Leonidas' and Kk's claims and didn't fell for the "sandwich" story that mafia used to frame Amb.
Now some questions:
Mgm: Could you post the roles and Night actions?
KK: Why did you target TCM? Did you think he was the SK or did you decide to give the win for the SK since Mafia had no chance anyway? _________________ Learn how to flip out like a ninja!
My (few) Mafia results! |
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Mgm
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject: 517 |
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| I am sure I can post the full roles. Whether I can post all choices depends on how many of the PMs I still have lying around. |
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Mgm
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: 518 |
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James Frey (Godfather)
You are the infamous James Frey, known for making up certain parts of your autobiography and sharing those creative ideas with Oprah Winfrey. To get back at the writing world, you've joined a writer's convention in secluded hotel in Sicily with the aim to eliminate everyone who is against you.
To help you, you've enlisted the help of Lewis Carroll (your second in command) of Alice in Wonderland and Jabberwocky fame (and also a suspect in the Jack the Ripper case) and newcomer and cook Sam Stern.
Each night, you or one of your fellow mafia members will tell me which of the other authors you want death and who should do the deed. I will take the choice of the highest in command unless we agree to something else.
If you fear detection during a nightly outing, you can choose to have someone unknown to you make a kill for you, but it will be delayed and you have no control over their target; on the plus side, they have no idea they are lethal and they'll be surprised if their target dies.
Seeing as your name carries a negative connotation, it is a good idea to think up another one if asked for it, but be careful there is a role investigator type out there.
You are not immune to investigations, but you can withstand one attempt on your life (be it a lynch or a kill).
Part of this information is not known to your buddies, so I recommend you share it. You win when all the threats to the mafia have been eliminated.
Lewis Carroll (mafia goon)
You are world famous author Lewis Carroll and you are pissed you were not invited to the conference. What does it matter that you're dead? You've decided to follow the example of the Queen of Hearts. When you kill for the mafia it will be "off with their heads". Some of this information is not known to your mafia collegues, so it's a good idea to share.
Each night you can also send me a message which you would like to share with the group. You are second in command behind your godfather James Frey and ahead of your fellow goon Sam Stern.
You win when all the threats to the mafia have been eliminated.
Sam Stern (mafia goon)
They published your first cookbook. So what? Your second book is on your hard drive collecting dust. No one wants to publish it, and thus you've joined the mafia. If they don't publish it, they can stuff it - literally.
When sent out to kill for the mafia, you stuff your victim full with your cooking until they're death. You are the third in command after Lewiss Carroll (second) and your godfather James Frey.
You can also poison your food and choose to boobytrap one post before the first day begins. You have information not known to your mafia buddies, so I recommend you talk and share it.
You win when all the threats to the mafia have been eliminated.
Robin Cook (doc/delayed killer)
You are Robin Cook, the author of medical thrillers. During this convention, you will use your medical knowledge to protect people from bodily harm. Each night you can send me the name of a player to protect. You are limited though, if more than one killer targets the victim, you can't help them.
You win when the mafia and/or any serial killers have been eliminated.
Dan Brown (cult recruiter)
The time you spent around conspiracies has affected you. You've decided to start the Brotherhood of the Sun.
Some people around here would call it a cult. You win when you and your members have control of more than half the votes during a day. You will die if you attempt to recruit a mafia member. If this happens the cult will be disbanded. Members will only know you recruited them. They are oblivious to who else is a member. You can NOT talk to them at night.
Agatha Christie (serial killer)
In your writing career you've written about so many murders that when you are enraged about not being invited to this convention you have enough inspiration on how to kill those so-called authors. Each night you can kill someone using a method from one of your books (either you choose one, or I do it for you). During day 1, 2 or 3, you can also choose to disappear for one day during which you cannot talk or be targetted.
You win when you're the last one standing.
Aimee Carter (protected townie)
You wrote "Phoenix Ashes" and it's exactly the phoenix that is important here. Using the powers of the phoenix, you can survive an attempt on your life (be it a killing or a lynching). This power is automatic, and you don't need to send in any choices.
You win when the scumbags have been eliminated.
Greg Vilk (code breaker/ communications interceptor)
You are the author of Golem (http://www.gregvilk.com) and you can use your knowledge of ciphers and codes.
Each night you can attempt to intercept a message by the mafia (which may not always work) or you can choose to send me a message which I will share with the other players. You can't do both on the same night.
I also recommend you do some poking around on the website I mentioned, you may just help some people out solving any codes.
You win when all scumbags have snuffed it.
Stephen King (extra vote)
Take a "Stand" and be bold. If you manage to hide the name of a fellow player in a post by having the letters of their name on the first place in each line (so I can read their name vertically), I will put an extra vote on them for you. None of the other players will know the extra vote is yours... unless they investigate your post more carefully.
To make sure I didn't overlook it, please PM after you've hidden a vote and let me know which post it's in.
You win when the scum has been dealt with.
Anthony Horowitz (overachiever)
You are a man of many talents. You've written about a teenage spy, evil grannies and kids with psychic powers to name a few things. You have no powers yet, but you can choose to take over the role of any player the morning after they die (no later). You can also choose to get another role, but I will only tell what it is once you've chosen to accept it. Please PM as soon as you've made a choice and I will give you a full role including win condition. You cannot win without a win condition, so if you don't have one by the end of the game, you will lose.
Arthur Conan Doyle (cop)
Without a doubt, your most famous (perhaps only) creation is Sherlock Holmes and for good reason. Doctor Joseph Bell taught you well and you have excellent deductive reasoning. Each night, you can send me the name of one of the others and I will give you a bit of information regarding their identity.
You win when all the evil authors have been killed.
Orson Scott Card (vig)
Orson Scott Card, sci-fi author and the creator of Ender Wiggins. Each night you can wield one of Ender's weapons and shoot a suspicious author. There is a downside though, if you shoot an innocent author, you will not be able to talk the next
day.
You win when all evil is eliminated.
Jeremy Robinson and Margaret Mahy (time travelling masons)
You've never met before today, but immediately you felt a connection. Jeremy wrote "The Didymus Contingency" which dealt
with a scientist who went back in time to disprove a variety of things about Jesus Christ. Margaret wrote the television series and the book called "Maddigan's Quest" in which a travelling circus has to get a solar converter to save their home town and fix the future. Both of these tales include time travel...
Each of you can travel either 1 day forward or 1 day back in time once during the game. If you travel back, you will be able to place an extra vote in the ballot for the previous day (with your name on it),
or remove the one you placed before. If you travel forward, you'll be missing for a period of a day and a night and reappear
the next day effectively giving you protection during that time.
You can also discuss tactics at night like masons (please do keep me posted), but since you never met before, you have
no idea how much you can trust eachother to be innocent.
You win when all evil scumbags are dead.
# If the mafia chose to delegate the kill to an unknown player, amb would fail in his doctor duties and kill instead...
# Fritzler got his faking death ability by choosing to fake his own death with a gunshot as it happened in one of Christie's books. To give the town a chance at catching him, I restricted him to dead for one day and forcing him to give a role for his body. I'm surprised no one compared death methods and suspected him... |
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kennykiller
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject: 519 |
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I really choose TCM randomly because I was dead anyway. A dice was helping me with my choosing.
As I was reading the roles I was nearly biting into my desk as I read the Stephen King extra vote thing, as I read the book this incident happened only a short while ago. _________________ I used to have a sig but I quit smoking |
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The Cheshire Man
Not a pussycat
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:33 am Post subject: 520 |
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Freaking brilliant twist ending! Bravo!
My only problem with this game is how quickly the town got whittled down. But everything else was more than worth it. Encore! _________________ smile |
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